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		<title>By: Sean the Blogonaut</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-4/#comment-8275</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean the Blogonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage everyone to checkout Jpower/Crankypants list of sites, this one http://​www​.visainfo​.org​.au/ is basically doing the same thing as the AVN, recomending homeophyaxsis(sp?) as a safe alternative to vaccination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage everyone to checkout Jpower/Crankypants list of sites, this one <a href="http://​www​.visainfo​.org​.au/" rel="nofollow">http://​www​.visainfo​.org​.au/</a> is basically doing the same thing as the AVN, recomending homeophyaxsis(sp?) as a safe alternative to vaccination.</p>
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		<title>By: Young Aus Skeptic Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-4/#comment-8273</link>
		<dc:creator>Young Aus Skeptic Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.s

Jpower and crankypants are the same person. Please stick to using one name :). Honesty and transparency are valued on this website.</description>
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<p>Jpower and crankypants are the same person. Please stick to using one name :). Honesty and transparency are valued on this website.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Blogonaut</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-8272</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean the Blogonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crankypants/Jpower/whoever you are?

I threatened you with banning because you badgered a reader, requiring them to reveal their medical history, shotguned them with questions, and impugned their motives all the while ignoring the post topic.

You then posted a comment very similar to the one above with links to some *cough* information sites*cough* the number of links caused it to be caught in the spam filter.  These have been released now.

I see you are doing the same thing though, straying off topic jumping to conclusions etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crankypants/Jpower/whoever you are?</p>
<p>I threatened you with banning because you badgered a reader, requiring them to reveal their medical history, shotguned them with questions, and impugned their motives all the while ignoring the post topic.</p>
<p>You then posted a comment very similar to the one above with links to some *cough* information sites*cough* the number of links caused it to be caught in the spam filter.  These have been released now.</p>
<p>I see you are doing the same thing though, straying off topic jumping to conclusions etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Young Aus Skeptic Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-8270</link>
		<dc:creator>Young Aus Skeptic Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi CrankyPants,

Please do not leave comments about bloggers on this website. Stick to the topic. How I see it right now your comment about Sean has nothing to do with the topic.

I appreciate you joining in discussion but I will remove you from it if you go off topic.

Cheers,

Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CrankyPants,</p>
<p>Please do not leave comments about bloggers on this website. Stick to the topic. How I see it right now your comment about Sean has nothing to do with the topic.</p>
<p>I appreciate you joining in discussion but I will remove you from it if you go off topic.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Elliot</p>
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		<title>By: CrankyPants/Jpower</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-8269</link>
		<dc:creator>CrankyPants/Jpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to ask.  Is vaccination compulsory where you live.?  It is where I live.  We used to have the right to choose, but big brother put a stop to that.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to ask.  Is vaccination compulsory where you live.?  It is where I live.  We used to have the right to choose, but big brother put a stop to that.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: CrankyPants/Jpower</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-8267</link>
		<dc:creator>CrankyPants/Jpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Luke

I checked out all these websites

www.thinktwice.com
www.offtheradar.co.nz/
www.visainfo.org.au/
www.vaccination.inoz.com/

Maybe I&#039;m looking in the wrong place .

I couldn&#039;t find anything on how much Thiomersal is safe per kg of weight.  When you dose your kid with panadol, you follow a weight/age/dose chart so as not to overdose.  It doesn&#039;t work that way for vaccines?  maybe you could provide your source of info.

Parents  of QLD school kids got a letter last week saying verbatim, &quot;It is anticipated that the data from the clinical trials for children will be available late October.  Vaccination for children will commence some time after this.&quot; check out 
www.health.qld.gov.au/swineflu/html/vacc.asp

I did but there wasn&#039;t anything there about weight/dose for this vax.  thanks for passing on what you know.

Cheers!

ps.  Do you guys know seanblogonaut?  His blog indulges in internet censorship.  And he calls himself a skeptic.  Crazy, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Luke</p>
<p>I checked out all these websites</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thinktwice.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thinktwice.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.offtheradar.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.offtheradar.co.nz/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.visainfo.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.visainfo.org.au/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/</a></p>
<p>Maybe I’m looking in the wrong place .</p>
<p>I couldn’t find anything on how much Thiomersal is safe per kg of weight.  When you dose your kid with panadol, you follow a weight/age/dose chart so as not to overdose.  It doesn’t work that way for vaccines?  maybe you could provide your source of info.</p>
<p>Parents  of QLD school kids got a letter last week saying verbatim, “It is anticipated that the data from the clinical trials for children will be available late October.  Vaccination for children will commence some time after this.” check out<br />
<a href="http://www.health.qld.gov.au/swineflu/html/vacc.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.health.qld.gov.au/swineflu/html/vacc.asp</a></p>
<p>I did but there wasn’t anything there about weight/dose for this vax.  thanks for passing on what you know.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>ps.  Do you guys know seanblogonaut?  His blog indulges in internet censorship.  And he calls himself a skeptic.  Crazy, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jpower</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-8261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Luke,

Thanks for educating yourself.  How do you know it is safe for a 70kg man?  Do you know if the H1N1 vaccine to be given to children under 10 years sometime after late October will have Thimerosal  in the multi-dose bottles?  

Thank you for being sceptical of everything you read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luke,</p>
<p>Thanks for educating yourself.  How do you know it is safe for a 70kg man?  Do you know if the H1N1 vaccine to be given to children under 10 years sometime after late October will have Thimerosal  in the multi-dose bottles?  </p>
<p>Thank you for being sceptical of everything you read.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Weston</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-8198</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Check out the CSL website. Read the H1N1 package insert pdf. Or ask your doc &gt;&gt; for the package insert when you get your jab.

That&#039;s good advice.

&gt;&gt; Multi-​​dose vials contain 24.5 mcg of mercury in each 0.5 ml dose.

50 mcg of thiomersal... it&#039;s important to be specific, since the potential toxicological impact of something like a mercury compound will be profoundly different depending on what that compound is.

&gt;&gt; Is that a safe level for a 70kg male?

The short answer is... yes.

&gt;&gt; What about a 5 kg infant?

I&#039;m not sure. However, this is completely irrelevant, because, when we read the information just as you suggested above, we find the following...

&quot;Panvax® H1N1 Vaccine is used in adults, adolescents and children 10 years of age and older.&quot; That&#039;s a verbatim quote from the package insert/CMI doc.

Some adult vaccines in multidose vials contain thiomersal, and influenza vaccines are a common example of such. Pediatric vaccines don&#039;t contain it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>» Check out the CSL website. Read the H1N1 package insert pdf. Or ask your doc » for the package insert when you get your jab.</p>
<p>That’s good advice.</p>
<p>» Multi-​​dose vials contain 24.5 mcg of mercury in each 0.5 ml dose.</p>
<p>50 mcg of thiomersal… it’s important to be specific, since the potential toxicological impact of something like a mercury compound will be profoundly different depending on what that compound is.</p>
<p>» Is that a safe level for a 70kg male?</p>
<p>The short answer is… yes.</p>
<p>» What about a 5 kg infant?</p>
<p>I’m not sure. However, this is completely irrelevant, because, when we read the information just as you suggested above, we find the following…</p>
<p>“Panvax® H1N1 Vaccine is used in adults, adolescents and children 10 years of age and older.” That’s a verbatim quote from the package insert/CMI doc.</p>
<p>Some adult vaccines in multidose vials contain thiomersal, and influenza vaccines are a common example of such. Pediatric vaccines don’t contain it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jpower</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-8196</link>
		<dc:creator>Jpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the CSL website.  Read the H1N1 package insert pdf.  Or ask your doc for the package insert when you get your jab.  Multi-dose vials contain 24.5 mcg of mercury in each 0.5 ml dose.  Is that a safe level for a 70kg male?  What about a 5 kg infant?   Do some basic research,  fellas.  You are skeptics after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the CSL website.  Read the H1N1 package insert pdf.  Or ask your doc for the package insert when you get your jab.  Multi-dose vials contain 24.5 mcg of mercury in each 0.5 ml dose.  Is that a safe level for a 70kg male?  What about a 5 kg infant?   Do some basic research,  fellas.  You are skeptics after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Weston</title>
		<link>http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/09/the-avn-gives-medical-advice/comment-page-3/#comment-7697</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally don&#039;t see why there is any need to rush out a &quot;swine flu&quot; vaccine.

It&#039;s really not &quot;swine flu&quot;, it is very much human flu, just a new substrain of the very familiar H1N1 human flu strain.

Every year flu vaccines are updated with the antigens for the most recent year&#039;s substrain(s) of flu, and I really don&#039;t think this year&#039;s so-called swine flu should be any different. It&#039;s not even any more dangerous than any other flu.

Anyhow... the AVN twats claim that the vaccines contain mercury. Can they show the datasheet for the particular vaccines which show that to honestly be the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don’t see why there is any need to rush out a “swine flu” vaccine.</p>
<p>It’s really not “swine flu”, it is very much human flu, just a new substrain of the very familiar H1N1 human flu strain.</p>
<p>Every year flu vaccines are updated with the antigens for the most recent year’s substrain(s) of flu, and I really don’t think this year’s so-called swine flu should be any different. It’s not even any more dangerous than any other flu.</p>
<p>Anyhow… the AVN twats claim that the vaccines contain mercury. Can they show the datasheet for the particular vaccines which show that to honestly be the case?</p>
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