The Catholic Church. It’d be good for a laugh if it wasn’t so serious.

By James Bayard

14
Nov. 09

When you need negative examples of religion at work, you can usually rely on the Catholic Church to do the work for you. They haven’t let us down this time either. On Sunday 8th November, TIME published an article titled Priests Spar Over What It Means to Be Catholic, detailing the recent split in some American Catholics due to their stance on abortion. Specifically, in late September Archbishop Raymond Burke (coming to us out of Rome, Italy) told the world that Boston Cardinal Sean O’Malley was under the influence of “the father of lies” (Satan, for those of you playing along at home). What prompted this extraordinary outburst at one of his own? O’Malley had the incredible nerve to take part in the memorial service of Senator Ted Kennedy. The nerve of the man! Anyone who would take part in a politicians funeral is clearly in the pocket of Beelzebub! The problem Burke has with O’Malley’s taking part in the service is that Kennedy was for abortion rights for women and Burke takes the usual Catholic ‘pro-​​life’ line. It isn’t surprising really, that Burke has this position. He has previously led campaigns (unsuccessfully) to deny ‘pro-​​choice’ politicians holy communion and also used his position and power to warn Missouri Catholics that if they voted for a politician (in the 2004 presidential election) who supported abortion rights, they needn’t bother to come to holy communion (gotta love that religious compassion!). 

Burke got an unexpected transfer to Pope Central (Vatican City) in 2008, presumably to keep him away from the upcoming election. It didn’t work. He blamed American bishops for Obama’s victory because they supported a document that suggested using something other than abortion stance to decide who to vote for (actually listening to policies? That’s crazy!). It goes beyond the archbishop however, with many right-​​wing catholics lobbying the Vatican to refuse a church funeral for the senator. The church itself has also been disturbingly quiet, seeming to hope that the whole thing blows over without any need for them to actually define where they sit. What really bothers me however, more than Burke’s stance on abortion or the churches silence on the issue, is the incredible ability the Catholic church has to separate what it preaches and what it practices. The whole show is supposed to be based on Jesus and Co: love, compassion and all that. Do they not see the hypocrisy in calling for people to be refused funeral rights (people who are in fact catholics themselves) and not to be recognised as Catholics anymore (not to mention blackmailing parishioners with excommunication)? It is this kind of thing that is what really turns me off from religion, apart from all the obvious, physical evidence that tells us that the universe came about by purely natural means, all on its own.

Sections of church doctrine teach followers  to be compassionate and understanding, to reach out to those in need and provide support and consolation for people during their darkest hour. What do they do? They cast whole groups of people aside because their religious view differs in one way from their own. But, in retrospect, perhaps I shouldn’t be so surprised. The rest of the bible teaches fear, distrust, homophobia, sexual suppression and repression of women. May as well add abortion to the list of things that  they haven’t caught up with the rest of the world on.  And these are the people who hold a large sway over moral policy and actions in one of the most powerful countries in the modern world. Sad.

117 Responses to “The Catholic Church. It’d be good for a laugh if it wasn’t so serious.”

  1. 111
    Young Aus Skeptic Admin says:

    A reply to my query is needed.

  2. 112
    Joanna says:

    As far as I am concerned you can end it if you wish because the arguments against my perspective have revolved around suppositions of other things that I may or may not believe — rather than the moral issue being discussed — namely abortion. Attempts have been made to stereotype and undermine me as an individual rather than addressing my arguments. As yet no one has come up with any moral explanation for why the Catholic Church is wrong to promote chastity and that is because the facts are indisputable. Whether your concern is abortion, or as some have tried to broaden it out to condom use and sexually transmitted diseases, the fact remains that abstinence is the best solution — that is a materially verifiable and indisputable fact. No other “solution” could be as effective.

  3. 113
    James Bayard says:

    The discussion deteriorated until it was unrecognisable and just became both sides attempting to score points. End it now. The article I wrote was designed, not to discuss abortion, but to expose an incredible example of hypocrisy within the Catholic Church.

  4. 114
    dazza says:

    Agreed James, and I am sorry I am partly responsible for straying from the original article.

    Bin it!

  5. 115
    Joanna says:

    Personally I don’t think you should censor it — it contains too much moral truth for that. But it can end. If you are not too frightened to leave it up, let it remain. If, as you say, the arguments really speak for themselves, let others read it and make up their own minds.

  6. 116
    Cerca Trova says:

    It’s not about censorship, it’s about bandwidth. Closing the thread still leaves all previous posting there, just stops any further posting.

  7. 117
    Joanna says:

    Oh, in that case, please go ahead and close it. My genuine regards to you all :)

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